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22:19 CST :: 8/15/2010

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Quote (delrio @ 22:15 CST :: 8/15/2010)
Pump was never supposed to be the AAA dick-wagging competition that DDR is.

Seems like things like the World Pump Festival changed that years ago, imho.

Edit: Just watched "the jBoy video", seems moreso that he was upset with Nexcade's stuff, but regardless... holy crap that video is stuck up. :/


Edited by Lightning on 22:27 CST :: 8/15/2010

22:40 CST :: 8/15/2010

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Yeah JBoy is seriously an example of elitism at its worst. No one has to love any rhythm game in particular to see that.

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01:08 CST :: 8/16/2010

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Quote (Lightning @ 21:19 CST :: 8/15/2010)
Quote (delrio @ 22:15 CST :: 8/15/2010)
Pump was never supposed to be the AAA dick-wagging competition that DDR is.

Seems like things like the World Pump Festival changed that years ago, imho.

Edit: Just watched "the jBoy video", seems moreso that he was upset with Nexcade's stuff, but regardless... holy crap that video is stuck up. :/

Well, the players in WPF aren't the only type of players in the community... IMO, the loose timing and scoring of the game seems to have the added benefit of not having people look down upon you for feeling accomplished as a lvl 13 no-bar player vs. a lvl 25 no-bar player like some of the top players are.  Granted, Fiesta does NOW reward you for FPCs and FCs, so the game might cater a little more to the "FPC everything" type of players now, but the timing hasn't reached DDR or ITG levels of strictness.  As far as I know, the PIU community here doesn't REALLY have the reputation of scorewhoring elitism that tends to be associated with the DDR and ITG communities, so that has to mean something... (however, that certainly doesn't mean elitists don't exist for PIU, because that would clearly be a lie :p)

And yeah, the JBoy video is terrible :\  I don't know if it's Nexcade-specific... I'd actually say the state of the tournament scene was the biggest factor, since it looks like neither Pro nor NX1-NX2 were enough to keep his interest in the game as a whole.


Btw, Lightning, are you one of the Pro 2 specific noteskin designers?  (If you are, I think the Pro 2 noteskins look spiffy :) )


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01:47 CST :: 8/16/2010

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Thanks, haha.

I did theme work, along with most of the BGA scripting, some BG graphics, and most of the noteskin work (I modeled/textured the 3D skins, ported NX/2/A, and whatnot with Chris/Glenn tweaking and optimizing stuff)

Well, we actually did do some stuff that allowed for a more fun, open experience this time around. Routine mode has failing completely disabled (aside from 30 misses, I believe), and also failing is completely disabled on your first round to give people more opportunities to try something new or to simply have fun with it.

Do we even know the exact sizes of Pump's timing windows? I'm rather curious myself.

06:08 CST :: 8/16/2010

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Pump actually does (or used to) timing based on y distance, meaning that slower songs had easier timing and faster songs had harder timing.

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06:24 CST :: 8/16/2010

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Quote (FSX @ 07:08 CST :: 8/16/2010)
Pump actually does (or used to) timing based on y distance, meaning that slower songs had easier timing and faster songs had harder timing.

Yep, and it was pretty insanely obvious too. Songs like Midnight Blue played with a timing window the size of a planet while She Likes Pizza had the timing window worse than the hardest setting you could set on Stepmania.

I believe it changed in Premiere 2 when the step format changed from NOT to STX.

09:14 CST :: 8/16/2010

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I thought it was at least like that through Prex 3. Guess I was wrong.

14:07 CST :: 8/16/2010

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Oh WOW, that's rather interesting. For comparison, Pro's windows are as follows:

Superb=0.026
Perfect=0.055
Great=0.100
Good=0.145


Edited by Lightning on 14:07 CST :: 8/16/2010

15:50 CST :: 8/16/2010

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JBoy getting mostly out of the game and selling his machine was also partially a product of him not liking the way NX2 went (he thought it felt more like a home game than anything else) and being out of things to do with Pro 1.  He still plays a little bit, but he's nowhere near the same obessive level he was at when he had the machine.

Modern pump's timing windows are static, but variable depending on judgement settings in the operator menu or if HJ/XJ are active.  I play with HJ on pretty much constantly.

03:54 CST :: 8/29/2010

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where i can download pump pro 2 ??
and i looking for fiesta song >__<

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