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Posted by: valius on 17:45 CST :: 4/20/2005
Greetings all. Welcome to the KIU problem thread. This will work sort of like technical support for KIU. This will help all of us find out about your problem more quickly and, as a result, help you a lot more quickly. I know that a lot of you have had problems with KIU, and we want to help you with the most genuine Pump It Up simulator out there right now.
The only rules of this thread:
1) Be courteous and respectful.
2) No flooding or spamming of irrelevant posts.
Anyway, I'm sure you all knew that much already. Let's begin! First question....
Posted by: KurenaiSchwarz on 14:39 CST :: 4/22/2005
Seems that I'm the first one having problems here...
Actually, my problem is not with the KIU itself, but with the KSFCreator... I downloaded it right now, tried to create a new KSF, and got an error message (see screenshot)
Since it gives only a filename, I have no clue if this file is corrupt, or if it's missing, or where could I find it. Could someone help me?
Posted by: Koro on 19:35 CST :: 4/22/2005
I have a problem with KIU itself it says upon running "Can not load font" and "No song directory" I have no clue whats up..
Posted by: Turkeyslam on 19:46 CST :: 4/22/2005
That's the oldest error in the book, yet I still don't know how to answer the question.
Go, valius, go!
Posted by: KurenaiSchwarz on 21:03 CST :: 4/22/2005
I had this problem one week ago... and I solved it by unzipping the KIU with Winzip instead of my habitual WinRAR... But I have a friend who did the same as me and couldn't run the program. But you could give it a try. And if it doesn't work, you can always download Stepmania
Posted by: valius on 21:57 CST :: 4/22/2005
First I will address this problem, since it came first. Anyway, apparently there is a problem with the mscomct2.ocx, since perhaps it is outdated. The best thing to do is to look for a pack with this file in it on Google. There are plenty of sites that offer this elusive for downloading... and I'll leave you w/one:
< http://www.ascentive.com/support....CT2.OCX >
Now... onto the next problem...
Posted by: valius on 22:00 CST :: 4/22/2005
Apologize in advance for the double post... so... this question needs a little more details for me to help.
Please tell me how thy KIU folder looks like and tell me whether there are any *.fnt files in the folder?
Posted by: KurenaiSchwarz on 12:31 CST :: 4/25/2005
thanks for the link valius, it solved the problem
Posted by: jorge3094 on 15:39 CST :: 4/26/2005
i need help
i want to play nigthmare in ''funbox collection'' pump pc but i can't play it in the keyboard because the keys are ''qeszc'' and ''79513'' and i want to play the ''79513'' with ''rygvn'' if someone can help me with this help me please!!!
excuse me but my english it's no too good
i necesito ayuda
hola a todos kisiera pedirles ayuda con algo...kiero jugar nigthmare en el pump pc de funbox ''funbox collection'' pero tengo el problema de ke las teclas para el jugador 1 son ''qeszc'' y las de el jugador 2 son ''79513'' kisiera ver a ver si alguien me puede ayudar a cambiar de ''79513'' a ''rygvn''de antemanos gracias y si me pueden ayudar les estare muy agradecido
Posted by: Turkeyslam on 15:47 CST :: 4/26/2005
This is the wrong thread for that question, but I'll let it go since you're new.
< http://www.ph-online.net/cgi-bin....;t=1856 >
Follow valius's advice with ONLY the Remapkey program. Instead of reversing 1, 3, 7, and 9, make 7 = R, 9 = Y, 1 = V, and 3 = N. Then R = 7, Y = 9, V = 1, and N = 3. BE CAREFUL not to remap to a point where you lose a key on the keyboard. If you do it properly you remapped the keys on your computer, and you can play QESZC - RYGVN. Just remap it back to the normal setup and restart your computer when it's done.
If you have questions, ASK, because this is a process which may cause errors on your computer if you don't do it properly.
Posted by: jorge3094 on 16:05 CST :: 4/26/2005
thnx a lot!!!!!
Posted by: Joelit0 on 22:51 CST :: 4/27/2005
I had the same problem, and I solved it downloading KIU from another webpage.. I think that the problem is the skin, no the program. :S
Posted by: Draco-Man on 08:31 CST :: 5/01/2005
Hi, im new here.
I have some problems with the background movies, they are normal when i open on windows media, but when i play KIU they have green dots on it... any one knows how to fix it? thx!
Posted by: felps on 17:15 CST :: 5/03/2005
o man.. my kiu keeps sayn "cannot load font" and "no sound data or directory" ¬¬
im so sick of this stupid problem ¬¬
Posted by: valius on 23:13 CST :: 5/03/2005
Draco-man, what is the file extension of the videos are you using and do you know what codec the videos are usin?
felp, first you need to tell me how your KIU folder looks like right now.
Posted by: Draco-Man on 18:26 CST :: 5/05/2005
the problem have disapeared by itselft...thx anyway (was .mpg divx codec)
Posted by: valius on 18:32 CST :: 5/05/2005
You gotta love computers, eh?
Did you by chance reinstall DivX?
Posted by: ludejohnny on 02:57 CST :: 5/18/2005
do the american usb pads work with KIU?
Posted by: firer on 22:23 CST :: 5/20/2005
About the "Cannot Load Font" and the "Song directory not found or no song data" problems, I think I know how to solve the problem.
I could reproduce this problem here by marking the entire KIU folder as "ready for archiving" (I'm currently using the portuguese (brazil) version of winxp, so I don't know exactly what's the name of the option in english). So, I think the problem can be solved by just doing the reverse thing:
- for FAT32 partions: right-click the KIU folder, click Properties, unmark the third option inside "Attributes:" (in portuguese it's "Arquivo Morto". Click OK and when asked, select "apply for all subfolders", or something like that.
- for NTFS partitions: right-click the KIU folder, click Properties, go for "Advanced", unmark "this folder is ready to be archived", or something like that. then click ok, ok, and when asked, select "apply for all subfolders".
I don't know if this solves the problem, but at least this solved the problem with a friend of mine.
Sorry by the bad english
Posted by: valius on 16:05 CST :: 5/21/2005
Ah I see! That's why KIU wouldn't function when I copied it over to my NTFS-formatted drive. On my computer, KIU will run on my FAT32 partitions perfectly but fail on NTFS. So it's all because of "Archive"
Thanx for the info firer
Posted by: Turkeyslam on 03:19 CST :: 6/01/2005
One other thing you guys should know is that it can also have a similar effect when you swap between two jukeboxes that have a ton of songs. When you turn it on, if KIU doesn't like something, it'll just make a system noise or freeze or something of the sort. In this case, try renaming the folder of the last jukebox you were in to something else so it'll force KIU to go to another folder.
This is why I have like... 40 jukeboxes, haha. Adding onto the fact that I'm disorganized. You should try limiting each jukebox to having a maximum of around 50 discs (so if a song has five modes, just have ten songs, but on the other hand, you can have 50 songs with one mode each). This can help keep KIU from going screwy.
Posted by: 717713$ on 12:59 CST :: 6/04/2005
Ok, everytime I try and play a song on kiu, either rebirth or long notes, it will just shut down. I don't know what the problem is and I would really like to know. I have unclicked the "archive" button under properties and it still doesn't work. I am on a windows xp computer and any help would be nice.
Posted by: Turkeyslam on 16:29 CST :: 6/07/2005
Give a description on what exactly happens. Does the program freeze, shut off with an error message, does it make a system sound, and how long does it take for it to have this effect?
Posted by: KurenaiSchwarz on 16:53 CST :: 6/07/2005
I'm with a new keyboard now, and it doesn't hit 71, 93, qz or ec at the same time. Is there something I can do to solve it without changing the keyboard or using the 2-times trick?
Posted by: 717713$ on 20:24 CST :: 6/07/2005
When I choose a song, the game will just shut down and the windows error message comes up. All it says is that if you want to send a report to microsoft or not. The game will start up fine, it only happens when a song is chosen.
Posted by: Turkeyslam on 15:09 CST :: 6/08/2005
Does this happen when you choose the song once for an intro or after you've double hit the key to start the song?
Also, does your Windows Media Player function correctly?
Posted by: 717713$ on 22:17 CST :: 6/08/2005
It happens when i double hit the key to start the song. And my Windows Media Player works just fine. Stepmania works fine, but Kick It Up won't work at all.
Posted by: Turkeyslam on 04:04 CST :: 6/09/2005
First off, check to make sure there is a song called "Song.mp3" in the corresponding folder for the song. If it has ANY other filename it will not work, unlike Stepmania.
Posted by: 717713$ on 11:10 CST :: 6/09/2005
There are 2 song files, one called intro and the other is called "song".
Posted by: Maximarfra on 12:15 CST :: 6/16/2005
is there any way to show more fps, because in my pc the most i can get is about 25 fps.
I hope anybody can give me a solution(in case there is one)...:indifferent:
Posted by: Krayak on 17:15 CST :: 7/22/2005
I downloaded the KIU bundle on this site but when I go to run Long Notes or Rebirth it just pops up a blank screen with "cannot load font" and then "song directory not found or not song data".
Any way to get this working?
Posted by: t1ck_t0ck on 18:08 CST :: 7/22/2005
Unzip it using the defualt windows ZIp program not winRAR or 7-zip or something like that. If you don't have windows XP then download WinZP to unzip it.
Posted by: valius on 17:33 CST :: 7/24/2005
Another thing you could also do is right click the folder KIU is located in and open the folder's properties. Uncheck archive and read-only, if theyre checked, and make sure to apply it to all files and subfolders in that folder... and that might help.
Posted by: Turkeyslam on 02:15 CST :: 7/25/2005
I have a tutorial coming up soon by a Brazilian guy named Darkness, and it is the most insane and comprehensive KIU tutorial you'll ever see. So good, in fact, that it might render this thread obsolete. Stay tuned...
Posted by: VoltaGe on 09:59 CST :: 7/30/2005
When I downloaded KIU All-in-One, it comes as kiubundle.zip.ph, and windows says I can't open the file. What do I do?
Posted by: t1ck_t0ck on 12:37 CST :: 7/30/2005
delete the .ph part.
Posted by: VoltaGe on 12:05 CST :: 7/31/2005
Wow, I really am stupid.
Posted by: CoCaZnInNoVaTiOn on 11:14 CST :: 8/04/2005
Mine won't run, I just installed it. =/
It came as kiubundle.rar.ph or something, so I just took off the end so it would just become a rar file.
I took everything outta the rarFile and put it into one folder, and now neither one will run : (
long notes or Rebirth.
Error: Cannot load font
Error: Song directory not found or no data.
I wanna get this running
edit: I read up on the forum saw that someone had the same problem ^.^! I'll check it see if it gets running.
But is there a site where I can get all the latest songs on whatever machine mix is out, pref. for that national tourney in NC in Sept. ::Freestyle::
Posted by: Violet Lee on 08:32 CST :: 8/08/2005
Well, i don't know if this is a bug or something from the program, but, it have to be a way to solve it:
My Kick it Up do not aceppt when i hit more then three keys at once. This mean that is IMPOSSIBLE for me to play those keyboard challenges. Also, it doesn't recognize the long notes as various steps, it simply add one to the combo on the beginning of the longe note and one in the end. There's another f** problem, when i'm playing kiu long note on the numerical keyboard, i always end up hitting the f*** Num Lock accidently and plus hitting the 4/6/8/2 keys too. The f** pad starts moving around the screen! Is there anyway to solve these problems? AH! and i would like to know if there's any fusion of KIU Rebirth and KIU Long Notes, because i can never play Nightmare songs with no Long Notes
Thanks and sorry for my horrible english
Posted by: t1ck_t0ck on 09:13 CST :: 8/08/2005
The reason you can't hit three keys at one time is due to the fact that your keyboard cannot register more then three key strokes at one time. It is not KIU's fault for you not being able to hit more then three keys it's because your keyboard is low quality. Also, I would suggest you don't play KIU using the number key pad. I would use the default setup (qeszc). And as for a KIU that has both KIU Rebirth and KIU Long Notes all in one .exe. Sorry, no one has made that yet.
Posted by: randomjk on 11:02 CST :: 8/08/2005
HAHAHAHA finally got it to work (i posted for help but then got it to work.)
what worked was using winzip, man i thought that program was useless against windows XP or winRAR, i also replaced the original
ijl15.dll with one i found here: < http://www.ph-online.net/ijl15.dll. >
well, if anyone has any problems, try what i did.
actually, i still not sure how well it works, i stopped it immediately to edit my post after i saw the title screen
well anyways i only hope for a more stable future release of this program. who made this, anyway? will it ever be updated?
i have had it with kiu! nothing i do seems to work. i keep getting the common font/no song error. WHYY??!!
i tried mostly everything. changing the file attributes like suggested wont work. i redownloaded it. twice. i tried extracting it with windows defualt extractor (im using windows xp btw) can anyoone help?!!
here is a screenshot of the folder, if thats of any use.
(image at < http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/4082/kiu8pv.jpg) >
Posted by: Turkeyslam on 18:34 CST :: 8/08/2005
I finished translating what quite possibly could be the best KIU tutorial on the internet. I suggest that any of you who are having problems with KIU check this out because it might help you solve your problems with the program.
< http://www.ph-online.net/html/ph_kiusm_tutorial.html >
Posted by: black cat :) on 13:22 CST :: 9/05/2005
hey i just downloaded kiu and..umm i used winrar(does that make a prob?)
i solved the font problem but now,though i have song packs in the songs folder,the game says "song directory not found or no song data" i did evything written in the tortual,and the faq nuthin worked :S sumbody help plz
Posted by: generik88 on 19:35 CST :: 9/25/2005
how exacly do you get your pad to work for kiu nstead of using the keyboard?
i'm using a usb pad, and don't no what to do.
Posted by: t1ck_t0ck on 21:36 CST :: 9/25/2005
if your pad came with a little adapter that lets you hook your pad up to the keyboard port on your mother board then you need to use that. If you don't have one then you are out of luck.
Posted by: darkknight009 on 22:51 CST :: 10/15/2005
I made it work but im having problems in the "Rebirth" seems that f you run it it will just Close or sometimes restarts my PC...
i think thats the Non-compatibility ssue answer in the tutorial...
but the one im having problem with is the Solitary 2 not getting its Right tempo (BPM) in the song... sometimes advance or late..
The Example Beethoven virus is also not in the tune of the BPM ... is this a problem in the KSF? or my Problem??
To all that have problems in FONT AND SONG CANNOT BE LOADED... here is the solution...
credits to tick_tock
use Winzip ... NOT WINRAR, NOT 7-ZIP etc...
and follow the Tutorials...
Posted by: valius on 00:55 CST :: 10/18/2005
Or if you're having the font and song not loaded problem, you could simply right-click the KIU folder and uncheck Read-only and Archive and apply it to all subfolders.
Posted by: Final Fingers on 15:41 CST :: 10/25/2005
I've been trying to do that, but each time I try to apply the changes, "Read Only" doesn't remain unchecked.
Any tips on how to get this working?
Posted by: darkknight009 on 03:19 CST :: 10/30/2005
umm it works for me...
right click Properties... uncheck Read only...
DONT CLick OKAY... Click APPLY FIRST... then OK...
Posted by: Final Fingers on 12:24 CST :: 10/30/2005
That's exactly what I did, but no luck.
I guess I try downloading Winzip and using that on it, because I've been using Winrar.
EDIT: It was Winrar. I got it to work now.
Posted by: xxxtaco on 20:46 CST :: 10/31/2005
I have the thing working and i can play songs now, but i'm limited to only two in one folder. I've tried adding songs to that folder, but it only shows those two songs. I hit tab to try to go to another folder of songs, but it says that song 3 is the only available song folder.
My KIU folder look like this: < http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/Special_ned/untitled.jpg >
EDIT: I found the problem. My song folders were all read-only. Now i have a few hours of making new folders ahead of me.
Posted by: Canelita on 13:46 CST :: 12/23/2005
When I run the Kiu my Pc RESTARTS!!! T_T
I dunno what to do... im frustrated ._.
Posted by: KouTenka on 20:26 CST :: 1/28/2006
I got a problem since a looooooooooong time... when I play Kiu the arrows of the game come in a delayed way they don't get syncronized with the music... first the music sounds, then like almost 0.5 seconds after that, the arrow comes... can you tell me how to repair that problem??? Thnx ^^
Posted by: frozenchao on 16:07 CST :: 2/07/2006
Okay, I have a problem with MPEG videos for the background movies. I have downloaded them, but I'm not sure what to do to get them to work. This has probably been asked before, but I have looked for a while without finding an answer.
Edit: It's fixed, I got them to work!
Posted by: noisuf0 on 06:58 CST :: 2/13/2006
need. mac. version.
Posted by: Cristu on 20:29 CST :: 2/17/2006
About the ksfeditor error, I have no clue, but I sugest you to delete and get another one... dont forget the one after the difficult...
About the error of no song... there should be a folder names Song in the same folder that its your KIU, inside of it, you should download some musics AND, inside songs you should create more folders, then, inside those folders you put the phase components as easy1ksf, etc...
Posted by: narrowband on 15:56 CST :: 6/16/2006
Can someone please reupload the main kiubundle.zip?
I have tried downloading it several times and I keep ending up with a 4.227mb file when it should be...
Kick It Up All-In-One Bundle 5.77MB
=__= yes, I have removed the .ph extension I just get a corrupted archive or incomplete archive error.
Posted by: Wolfman2000 on 13:06 CST :: 6/28/2006
I have a similar issue at this time as well: kiubundle.zip.ph is smaller than it should be, and I can't extract the file due to it being too small.
Posted by: valius on 00:49 CST :: 6/29/2006
This person is probably not here to see this answer, but I might as well answer it:
There is an inherent flaw with KIU where the arrows must actually be pressed before they align with the gray arrows at the top. I don't know whether it's just a KIU engine problem or the skin problem, but I experience this problem with both RocZombie skin, Exceed skin, and default skin. I'm not sure how to fix it, short of modifying the skin?
And someone should fix the kiubundle problem... unfortunately I already deleted the zip file from my hard drive, so I cannot help this time.
Posted by: dancefreak on 18:01 CST :: 7/08/2006
Hi ive been having a little problem with freeze arrows, i think its appropriate here, but ive been tweaking my 2 simfiles i started yesterday and i finnaly finished the easy and hard charts, i went into notepad and changed the holds to 4's like your supposed to but when i run KIU the steps dont show at all (just the holds) but they are still there as normal steps ? Any ideas?
Posted by: djxjam2daz on 14:43 CST :: 8/03/2006
i'm having the same problem you said to describe what the folder looks like well...
official text files (folder)
songs 2 (folder)
songs 3 (folder)
Kick it up long
kick it up rebirth
please help can't read font thing and song thing hehe
Posted by: Evil2k on 11:32 CST :: 8/16/2006
I have just bought a new pc and i don't know why but the kiu runs slower than the older!!!!!!!!! now i have a pentium 4 3 ghz and runs only with 60fps and there are also very frequent slow downs...why?? in the beginnig i thinked that the ffdshow codec was the problem but it's not that,please someone help me!!!
Posted by: Teal on 19:01 CST :: 8/28/2006
I'm also having the "Can not load font" and "No song directory" problem on WinXP Pro. I unchecked everything and it hasn't worked. Also, the Read-only attribute is grayed out. I uncheck it and it returns checked. I tried using winzip instead of winrar, and that hasn't helped either. Does anyone have a solution?
Posted by: valius on 01:30 CST :: 8/29/2006
To make sure... you are right-clicking on the KIU folder and not just the Skin folder or song folder? Anyway, have you tried moving the folder to a different place and changing the folder's attributes from there? It's strange that Windows would not let you change the attributes...
And if it all else fails... there's always DirectMove 0.5, which is actually a big improvement from 0.4
Posted by: vudukittie on 22:22 CST :: 9/03/2006
Hey guys, I was a member here a long ass time ago, and have recently started playin pump hardcore again. I searched around for an answer all over the forums for this question before I asked, so forgive me if you've seen it before.
When not in arcades, I usually play with my "official" pad I bought 3-4 years ago in a boxed set of the pc game. I use a ps/2 converter into the keyboad jack on my desktop on kick it up. The pad looks like this:
I recently purchased a new laptop to play kiu on while travelling, but it doesn't have a ps2 port, and for some reason I cant get the pad to work on the usb slots. The pad seems to be working fine, the ESC light is on and blinks every time i step on a button, but kiu doesnt seem to know its connected. Also, when i plug the mat in, windows instantly recognizes it as "Andamiro Pump It Up!" "USB Human Interface Device", so I know that it is fine.
I've tried altering the 2 lines in the KIUkey.cfg file to suit the mat's input with no luck. Does anyone have any ideas of what could fix the input problem or what to set it to in config, or how to see what the pad steps register as on my computer when stepped on? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Posted by: valius on 01:14 CST :: 9/04/2006
Hmmm, well... KIU was not designed to interface to a USB pad but rather the old PS/2 pads from before.
I'm not entirely sure how you'd fix this, unless the USB pad is detected as a game controller... I don't know.
Posted by: JohnMLTX on 20:48 CST :: 11/24/2006
< Kick It Up that WORKS! >
Scroll Down, click Kick It Up and download.
Works! Just extract and run!
Posted by: best_ninja_ever on 18:25 CST :: 3/13/2007
I've been trying to download KSFEdit(English) from the site. When I try to unzip it, it says "File is corrupted" or "Nothing to extract!" I know I've downloaded it right! Is something wrong with the file you hosted?
Posted by: sweetguynj22 on 00:14 CST :: 8/02/2007
where do i have to go to download KIU bc i cant find it newhere on your site?
Posted by: sweetguynj22 on 00:23 CST :: 8/02/2007
when i go to the utilities page and try to download it i click on the link for thew bundle and then when i click to save on it, it takes me back to the home page. where can i get this from?
Posted by: BOOM! on 22:07 CST :: 3/21/2008
Is there a "global offset" function in KIU? All the songs I downloaded are off-beat. Any way I can manually change the offset globally without going through each individual KSF?
Posted by: valius on 22:42 CST :: 4/01/2008
Not to my knowledge. KIU is kind of primitive and old.
Ok, I need to check this thread more often, since months have gone by since certain questions were asked, and that's no good.
Posted by: skibblesx on 22:22 CST :: 9/06/2008
Um...... When I uncheck the Real-Only thing and I save it I check it again and it checked again. Help?
Posted by: yankumi on 21:13 CST :: 12/14/2009
how to unzipped the kiu???thanx
Posted by: FSX on 06:00 CST :: 12/15/2009
The same way you unzip anything else? I don't quite know what you mean.
If you spoke something besides English first, could you ask in that language?
Posted by: coolstarmon on 03:41 CST :: 6/16/2010
This is an error that actually does not occur before..
Before this error occur.. I can use KIU normally
Let me give a screenshot